Sunday, November 13, 2011

Qur'an Error: Does the Sun Set in a Muddy Spring? (Surah 18:86)

According to the Qur'an (18:86), a man named Dhul-Qarnain reached the place where the sun sets. When he got there, he found the sun going down into a muddy pool. Muslim apologists commonly reinterpret the passage, but only because they're ignoring Muhammad's commentary.

Since Muslims in the West claim that science confirms the Qur'an, we should work diligently to explain to them what the Qur'an says, and how Muhammad obviously interpreted it. The following two quotations, when used together, are devastating and unanswerable:

Qur’an 18:83-86—And they ask you about Dhul-Qarnain. Say: “I shall recite to you something of his story.” Verily, We established him in the earth, and We gave him the means of everything. So he followed a way. Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people.

Sunan Abu Dawud 3991—Abu Dharr said: I was sitting behind the Apostle of Allah who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water.

For more on Muhammad, the Qur'an, and the setting of the sun, here are some articles:

Sam Shamoun - "Muhammad and the Sun's Setting Place"
Cornelius - "The Sun in the Muddy Pool and the Prophethood of Muhammad"

Sam Shamoun and Jochen Katz - "Islam and the Setting of the Sun"
Martin Taverille - "Dhu’l Qarnayn and the Sun Controversy in the Qur’an: New Evidence"

Answering Muslims


  1. That sahih Muslim Hadith Abu Dawaud 3991 kills Islam dead. Especially when you know sahih Bukhari has Mo saying the sun then has to "ask/seek permission to RISE again" (as if the sun needs to do that when it's the earth that needs to "ask/seek permission to keep on rotating". :)

  2. In fact the error is in the understanding not in the Qur'an... I think the writer knows that the qur'an language is Arabic not English!

    So if any Arabic person read this sentence, he get the meaning easily...

    The clear meaning is: according to the person's eye ... Dhul-Qarnayn saw the sun sets in the sea or hot water pool, the he decided to reach to this region where -near it- some of people stay..

    This is called: "Methods of rhetoric" you can learn Arabic before being a teacher of Interpretation of holy Qur'an!

    All due respect to all the prophets

  3. @Anonymous Jan 9, 2012 12:07 AM

    If you've read the articles linked above, your point was already being dealt with.


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